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Crazy question for ultra conservatives/libertarians:
If Obama is a tyrant, and the Federal Government is a tyranny...why do you all still have the right to buy guns and ammo?
If Obama is a tyrant, and the Federal Government is a tyranny...why do you all still have the right to buy guns and ammo?
6 days ago
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I am not "ultra" anything but am definitely not a Progressive.
It's not that FedGov or Obama are Tyranny, it's more like we have a great concern about the Fabian approach to chipping away, diluting our Liberties. Many of us think it has already gone way too far.
It's not that FedGov or Obama are Tyranny, it's more like we have a great concern about the Fabian approach to chipping away, diluting our Liberties. Many of us think it has already gone way too far.
Question for you ultra conservatives/libertarians on guns, government and tyranny?
Consider the TV show Bonanza. Took place in the late 1800s. Nevada was a Territory, not yet a State. People (Americans) had their natural Rights. What Rights could Ben Cartwright exercise which we can not now?
I shall be brief but a book could be written about this subject.
First, he owned his land. Nobody could tell him what to do with it.
He didn't have to fill out forms for layers of government = no compliance costs. Didn't have to document that his employees had been given sexual harassment class every month because anyone who was not a gentleman got fired.
He did not need government permission (building permit) to remodel his kitchen.
No need for an EPA because he was a good steward of his land, knew how manage his trees, cattle, water, etc.
He had real money. Yes, they used bank notes (like we do now) but he also used gold and silver coin as demanded by the Federal Constitution. Long story why that matters but short version is one can discharge a debt with a note in equity or one can pay a debt at law with hard money.
He did not need government permission (a drivers license) to take his vehicle on a public right of way (road). He was personally responsible for his actions. Unlike now he couldn't say to the other person in the accident "I am not responsible for my actions, call my insurance company". He could wear his pistol in town and even into the courtroom.
I could go on, that's just the short list.
How many of these Rights have we lost in the last 100 years?\
Thanks to the Federal Constitution and a decent system of courts, in USA change has to happen gradually, the Fabian (a Roman General) way. Unlike Russia, they can't just roll the tanks down the streets. This isn't Viet Nam, there are rules. This has been possible largely due to the 2nd amendment, meaning government has to be at least a little afraid of an armed populace. So they have to take baby steps over time to degrade our Rights.
But FedGov and some States keep chipping away, a little here, a little there, and slowly the Liberty our ancestors knew have been watered down or lost. Not exactly a Tyranny yet but going in that direction. We The People feel a Duty to attempt to slow the tide.
EDIT: Just to be non-partisan, can you imagine the uproar if Obama did what Nixon did with his wage and price controls (due to the unthinkable inflation rate of 4%)? Or drafting young men to send them to an unpopular war? Nope, instead we get Obamacare which is resulting in 29 hour work weeks to avoid penalties. Which is another bad idea.
Consider the TV show Bonanza. Took place in the late 1800s. Nevada was a Territory, not yet a State. People (Americans) had their natural Rights. What Rights could Ben Cartwright exercise which we can not now?
I shall be brief but a book could be written about this subject.
First, he owned his land. Nobody could tell him what to do with it.
He didn't have to fill out forms for layers of government = no compliance costs. Didn't have to document that his employees had been given sexual harassment class every month because anyone who was not a gentleman got fired.
He did not need government permission (building permit) to remodel his kitchen.
No need for an EPA because he was a good steward of his land, knew how manage his trees, cattle, water, etc.
He had real money. Yes, they used bank notes (like we do now) but he also used gold and silver coin as demanded by the Federal Constitution. Long story why that matters but short version is one can discharge a debt with a note in equity or one can pay a debt at law with hard money.
He did not need government permission (a drivers license) to take his vehicle on a public right of way (road). He was personally responsible for his actions. Unlike now he couldn't say to the other person in the accident "I am not responsible for my actions, call my insurance company". He could wear his pistol in town and even into the courtroom.
I could go on, that's just the short list.
How many of these Rights have we lost in the last 100 years?\
Thanks to the Federal Constitution and a decent system of courts, in USA change has to happen gradually, the Fabian (a Roman General) way. Unlike Russia, they can't just roll the tanks down the streets. This isn't Viet Nam, there are rules. This has been possible largely due to the 2nd amendment, meaning government has to be at least a little afraid of an armed populace. So they have to take baby steps over time to degrade our Rights.
But FedGov and some States keep chipping away, a little here, a little there, and slowly the Liberty our ancestors knew have been watered down or lost. Not exactly a Tyranny yet but going in that direction. We The People feel a Duty to attempt to slow the tide.
EDIT: Just to be non-partisan, can you imagine the uproar if Obama did what Nixon did with his wage and price controls (due to the unthinkable inflation rate of 4%)? Or drafting young men to send them to an unpopular war? Nope, instead we get Obamacare which is resulting in 29 hour work weeks to avoid penalties. Which is another bad idea.
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